tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post6178607256709707240..comments2023-05-25T06:44:40.265-05:00Comments on The Motley Cow: Can you shout "Sodomite!" in a crowded theater -- when children are present?Mpetersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-35710886842038551812009-11-15T14:25:22.884-06:002009-11-15T14:25:22.884-06:00Kevin - I assume you still have not yet read The P...Kevin - I assume you still have not yet read The Perks of Being a Wallflower?DanBackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365782450039434389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-76220672473817559642009-11-15T11:43:18.339-06:002009-11-15T11:43:18.339-06:00Kristina, sure: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bluep...Kristina, sure: <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/blueplate/blueplate.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/blueplate/blueplate.html</a>Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-69632702792737573532009-11-15T11:25:00.296-06:002009-11-15T11:25:00.296-06:00I have no knowledge of any library institution blo...I have no knowledge of any library institution blowing up a controversial book open to a controversial portion of the text to the point of where the print is visible from 100 feet away and placing said text in a public thoroughfare. To my knowledge, this has not occurred within any library whereby a controversial book was opened to a controversial portion of the text to the point of where the print is visible from 3 feet away and placed in a public foot traffic lane. Nor has there been on record any physical or armed assault(s) by librarians on the public whereby librarians forced people to read or listen to any (audio) book, other library media or even said library's patron policy.<br /><br />In truth, Librarian are (as a majority ) pathetically, non- aggressive, hermit -like creatures. They would possibly do the public better service if forced to take rhoids and receive ego-enhancement from the like of professional public speakers like Pat Buchanan, Ben Stein Cal Thomas, G. Gordon Liddy, and Ted Nugent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-43824552760624905722009-11-15T08:42:48.368-06:002009-11-15T08:42:48.368-06:00Mark,
You miss articulating the underlying issue...Mark,<br /> <br />You miss articulating the underlying issue, clearly.<br /><br />The sign is privately funded.<br /><br />You have no say. (Unless you are trying to make the case that you are a censor.)<br /><br />The library is funded by the public. Everybody has a say.<br /><br />That is the flaw in making the comparison here.<br />********************<br />James Dionne said, "Your posts are not eloquent, logical, respectful, nor humorous and you're really not helping."<br /><br />Have you taken a look at some of the stuff written in response to some of my eloquent posts? I *lol* when you say my posts lack "respect" by comparison. <br /><br />As far as eloquence, logic , and humor, I was not aware that was a requirement. We've already established this blog, while highly interesting and enjoyable, has no basis in logic.<br /><br />You can always skip over my comments, but we both know we will read each others post!kevin Scheunemannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-32691716097395210712009-11-15T02:29:29.107-06:002009-11-15T02:29:29.107-06:00Could you put up the link to the smoking gun site....Could you put up the link to the smoking gun site. I would love to see some of those tags (personalized plates). Thanks<br />KKristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16408037256965686866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-58198130457714542502009-11-15T00:58:26.467-06:002009-11-15T00:58:26.467-06:00OMG you made me laugh I had to spit out my milk. N...OMG you made me laugh I had to spit out my milk. Note to sef, never drink a glass of milk while reading Mark's piece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-18128914369579976162009-11-14T22:21:14.141-06:002009-11-14T22:21:14.141-06:00James D, can't you really see the difference? ...James D, can't you really see the difference? The kids don't have to open the library book, but they have to see the sign on their way to and from school.<br />C'mon now.John Jostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-31331242159796326922009-11-14T22:19:31.879-06:002009-11-14T22:19:31.879-06:00James,
I can say without irony that I would defe...James, <br /><br />I can say without irony that I would defend this sign-writer's rights to speak, put up a sign, and even shout in crowded theaters. I'm actually pretty hard core about that... which is why I supported the library. Having supported them, you're quite right: I'm bound to support this protest as well.<br /><br />But I don't have to do it blindly. I was simply overcome by the shrieking irony of the sign-writer's circumstance -- his/her ironic self-contradiction was my interest, not his/her right to free speech. <br /><br />Part of the irony is that they probably would be in favor of censoring words like "sodomite" around 4th graders, but a bigger part is the near certainty that this person would never be inclined to defend *my* right to free speech.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-1389868580735135412009-11-14T20:42:21.695-06:002009-11-14T20:42:21.695-06:00After the whole West Bend library mess, *NOW* you&...After the whole West Bend library mess, *NOW* you're worried about what our kids see and read over someones' first amendment rights issues? Hypocrisy is still thy middle name, Mark. You're only pissed off because you do not agree with the religious speakers message. I would have thought you, as a protector and champion of the first amendment, would certainly have fought tooth and nail for his right to say whatever he wants (as long as it isn't obscene by community standards and is on private property). Seriously, by your twisted logic, if this person writes this very phrase in a book and calls it children's literature, then that's OK? No, I actually agree with you Mark, it isn't, and the controversial library books aren't OK for children either, and deep down you know it. But the clear lesson revealed to me by you from the library debate is that you just can't have your free speech and block it too. I just wish you would listen to your own waffling arguments and take a consistent stand.<br /><br />P.S. Kevin S- please stop posting. Your posts are not eloquent, logical, respectful, nor humorous and you're really not helping.James Dionnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12842077223274364006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-29241332914873712802009-11-14T14:54:33.215-06:002009-11-14T14:54:33.215-06:00Thank you for corrupting me even further by fillin...Thank you for corrupting me even further by filling my head with ideas! Well done. You got several jabs within your word limit. You may have been a great boxer too. JPentermanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-52146128471337297802009-11-14T12:12:37.219-06:002009-11-14T12:12:37.219-06:00Thankfully the kids will read, use library resourc...Thankfully the kids will read, use library resources, on line resources and generally become better educated. Everyone wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-19583026002589228422009-11-14T10:30:26.200-06:002009-11-14T10:30:26.200-06:00"But where do we draw the line on offensive s..."But where do we draw the line on offensive speech shouted in public?"<br /><br />Sadly, I imagine a good chunk of Washington County doesn't find that offensive. I kind of give the person credit for having the balls to come out and say it, rather than say, hide behind the idea of having Sodomites labeled and moved to a different section of the county. For the protection of children, dontcha know.<br /><br />"anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex" <br /><br />Wow, I actually had no idea it included anal and oral sex between opposite sexes. So pretty much everyone is going to burn in hell?<br /><br />"I confess I’d forgotten that sodomy includes sex with animals, but I’ve probably lived a more sheltered life than the sign writer. " <br /><br />Pure gold, Mark.DanBackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365782450039434389noreply@blogger.com