tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post2631250600057055934..comments2023-05-25T06:44:40.265-05:00Comments on The Motley Cow: Economic crack addiction, still taking its toll among Republicans.Mpetersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-6377474976476145332010-02-16T15:06:08.591-06:002010-02-16T15:06:08.591-06:00Scott Walker. The epitomy of GOP partisan politics...Scott Walker. The epitomy of GOP partisan politics, even though -- as the leader of Milwaukee County -- he's "nonpartisan." We won't catch him accepting any of that Obama-tainted stimulus money for high-speed rail. No-sir-eeee. Who needs to ride a train anyway? Certainly not those car-less inner city residents who might want to apply for jobs in western suburbs.Barbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01398626211159799046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-53317604965980542822010-02-13T23:29:39.473-06:002010-02-13T23:29:39.473-06:00Mark, Mark, Mark - where does the money for the ta...Mark, Mark, Mark - where does the money for the tax hikes you support come from and then where does it go to ? How many of those dollar 'Help the Kids'.Kraignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-27782393937405757542010-02-13T17:28:18.722-06:002010-02-13T17:28:18.722-06:00Kraig, must be my head cold, but I can't tell ...Kraig, must be my head cold, but I can't tell if you think Grant's comment is a good one or what? I was agreeing with him. Or were you being sarcastic.<br /><br />Here's where I stand on tax hikes helping me out... If I didn't work in the university or the school system, I'd still support them since they are, demonstrably, the key to growth in any economy. If you'd like to save a few bucks for a new iPad by making dumber citizens, that's your right... but I'm not going to help you. I don't have an iPad and I'm happy to forego it if I know that our money is being spent well on preparing a next generation of kids who are smarter than we were.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-40351572877166326712010-02-13T17:16:13.056-06:002010-02-13T17:16:13.056-06:00Well, if you don't trust me, you shouldn'...Well, if you don't trust me, you shouldn't ask me to do your homework for you. Typically one cites original sources rather than others quoting from those sources, even when you end up pulling out the same material.<br /><br />Grin, as for intellectual honesty, do you have a job where a couple of different panels look over your shoulder throughout your career to make sure you don't screw anything up? And on top of wicked professionals scrutinizing my work, I get evaluated by 100's of students every year. How about you?<br /><br />Besides, look: I'd only have to be dishonest if I was afraid of the truth and, since I've <i>never</i> had to be afraid of the truth, the way most of the Right Wing has been for the past 30 years, this hasn't been an issue for me.<br /><br />You must really not like these numbers since you're trying to divert attention away from them by attacking my integrity. <br /><br />I've already told you if I've made a mistake -- the same mistakes you suggest OWN made -- then point them out and I'll be more than happy to correct them.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-49834939911386813762010-02-13T17:01:00.774-06:002010-02-13T17:01:00.774-06:00Hey Grant, thanks for the insightful response....w...Hey Grant, thanks for the insightful response....well put.Kraignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-67403236711881865432010-02-13T16:58:28.426-06:002010-02-13T16:58:28.426-06:00?Plagiarism?
Historically, which countries impose...?Plagiarism?<br /><br />Historically, which countries imposed continuous tax increases on private business for the sole purpose of growing the government ? Which of those actually worked long-term ? <br /><br />Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal - all countries who soon will be bankrupt. All countries who have huge handouts, huge numbers of government employees, huge unions and huge laziness. It may feel good to say 'we should be more like Europe' except that Europe is a failure.<br /><br />Only those who are not currently on the government's dole will be taken seriously when answering. I'm tired of watching public sector employees embracing tax hikes which support pay raises for themselves.....it is getting expensive and boring.Kraignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-48490924288569416222010-02-13T13:01:45.061-06:002010-02-13T13:01:45.061-06:00Sorry, you're missing my point. I understand h...Sorry, you're missing my point. I understand how tough it must be for a liberal to be intellectually honest. Since the figures you cite in your column are taken verbatim from OWN, why didn't you cite OWN as the source and not the LFB?Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-59351023947436619042010-02-13T12:39:25.788-06:002010-02-13T12:39:25.788-06:00Matt, if you think their math is off, tell me *whe...Matt, if you think their math is off, tell me *where* and I'll amend.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-83498867567275303442010-02-13T12:10:18.664-06:002010-02-13T12:10:18.664-06:00Hmmm. But you still use OWN's figures to drive...Hmmm. But you still use OWN's figures to drive your point, but you cite LFB as the source. The point is, you make it sound like the non-partisan LFB has created the figures you cite; however, it's actually OWN's biased math based on LFB figures. Anyone with an agenda could use LFB figures to make a biased claim. So no, this isn't about being annoyed or disliking the LFB figures. It's about deceiving the good people who read your entertaining column. Using your words in a previous post, don't spread around a bunch of fairy dust without taking a little responsibility for the consequence.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-58045757949351227492010-02-13T10:30:13.010-06:002010-02-13T10:30:13.010-06:00Oh, and Matt -- it's actually pretty easy to d...Oh, and Matt -- it's actually pretty easy to dig through most of the state budget stuff once you get used to it so, it's more like seining for smelt than diving really.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-74064030697993269012010-02-13T10:28:01.050-06:002010-02-13T10:28:01.050-06:00It would have be easier simply to copy the press r...It would have be easier simply to copy the press release, but I'm not allowed to do that. I had to check the OWN numbers against the LFB figures... my editor always insists I can point to an 'official' source for any of the numbers they publish.<br /><br />Is it that you don't like the LFB numbers? I can understand why some of Walker's supporters might be a little annoyed to see anything like that in print. <br /><br />Did you find that both OWN *and* the LFB numbers were wrong? If so, let me know and I'll be happy to fix 'em.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-27700861794460817242010-02-13T10:09:26.475-06:002010-02-13T10:09:26.475-06:00Wow, you really must have done a deep dive into th...Wow, you really must have done a deep dive into the Legislative Fiscal Bureau's numbers for this column. Or maybe you just got really lazy and (almost verbatim) copied the Jan. 19 press release from the crack smokers at One Wisconsin Now. Comparing your column's citations vs the content in the One Wis Now release, I'd have to lean toward the latter.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-8351905702942429432010-02-12T17:03:55.559-06:002010-02-12T17:03:55.559-06:00What Grant said, Kraig.
And that's why I kept...What Grant said, Kraig.<br /><br />And that's why I kept spinning back to the metaphor of addiction -- reason doesn't explain their actions, whereas the fairy dust of spectacular profits without having to take any personal responsibility for the consequences, explains almost all of it.Mpetersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399880071535547324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-4001056957782791462010-02-12T16:41:15.493-06:002010-02-12T16:41:15.493-06:00Cutting taxes on businesses and corporations leads...<i>Cutting taxes on businesses and corporations leads to a stronger bottom line which leads to more jobs</i><br /><br />If I were a tendentious blowhard, I could just say a cursory examination of corporate tax rates and economic performance from 1950 onward proves that to be naive nonsense.<br /><br />But since I'm a nice guy, I'll just say it's a lot more complicated than that.Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160568834659305520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-53095767890097322192010-02-12T16:06:31.372-06:002010-02-12T16:06:31.372-06:00I'm pretty sure I disagree with you, however I...I'm pretty sure I disagree with you, however I can't really tell due to your wierd fixation with using drug references ?? Next time try using real words to get your point across better.<br /><br />Cutting taxes on businesses and corporations leads to a stronger bottom line which leads to more jobs. <br /><br />Obviously, as California and Wisconsin have shown, higher taxes and stronger corporate regulation lead to bankrupt state governments, huge unemployment, and expanding handouts.Kraighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02072422875358124092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32673461.post-23550965408852765652010-02-12T12:34:48.303-06:002010-02-12T12:34:48.303-06:00I understand why Republicans keep selling voodoo e...I understand why Republicans keep selling voodoo economics. It gets votes. My question is why it gets votes. <br /><br />Reagan backed off from the total silliness of Grover Norquist's demand that taxes be cut forever and acted as if he knew perfectly well which side of the revenue curve American taxes were on (that doesn't mean that Art Laffer isn't still getting paid to say foolish things on the WSJ Opinion page though). <br /><br />GHWB was smart enough to increase taxes when needed, even though it cost him re-election. <br /><br />W screwed up the economy completely by actually trying to do what Reagan only promised. Was he really as ignorant as he appears to have been? Did he really drink the propaganda koolaid that Republicans were selling to the credulous?<br /><br />Why are Americans so willing to be bamboozled by Republicans?<br /><br />Does anyone think Scott Walker is as foolish as George W Bush?Free Lunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12272965187978654322noreply@blogger.com