Friday, February 05, 2010

Wingnuts Are Sad that Progressives Don’t Take Their Nonsense Seriously

The pose of victimization among the right wing, now turning up the volume. It's hard out there for a pimp.


Wingnuts Are Sad that Progressives Don’t Take Their Nonsense Seriously
But just to take one example, the total costs of all malpractice suits in the U.S. — frivolous or not — is about one half of one percent of our health-care costs. So why should I view the argument that tort reform is a key component of getting out-of-control health-care costs under control with anything but scorn?

Or look at the so-called “Death tax.” Conservatives have been arguing for years that it’s killing family farms, but they have never been able to find a single example of a family who actually lost a farm because of the inheritance tax. I look down my nose at those making the argument not because I’m some ivory-tower elitist, but because I don’t respect liars.

12 comments:

Kevin Scheunemann said...

Mark said,

"but they have never been able to find a single example of a family who actually lost a farm because of the inheritance tax."

Are you serious? Why do you think corporate farms are thriving and family farms are dying? Inheritence tax plays into the decision to sell out the family farm to large corporate interests.

And you use the term "progressive" to describe your comment?

This is just another example of government policy destroying the market and consolidating power with large corporations.

Progressive? If "progressive" now means crony capitalism with crazy liberal government policy...

Free Lunch said...

The Washington Post is doing everything it can to make its opinion page as useless as the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal. When authoritarian followers realize that they have been duped. When the give up on climate denialism and start to learn something about evolution and cosmology, then I will take them seriously. As long as they get their "science" from the Bible and ExxonMobil, I would be remiss to provide them with any reason to think that they know what they are talking about.

Why is Gerard Alexander so defensive? Why doesn't he bother to start learning and stop making excuses for the silly things that some on the right say they believe.

Anonymous said...

It's sad that in the minds of a good sized portion of religious conservatives (for lack of a better term), not wanting creationism taught in a public school science classroom = hatred/bashing of Christianity.

Free Lunch said...

Anon (6:08 am) -

Part of the problem is the lack of respect that such conservative believers have for the First Amendment. They act as if the First Amendment is their personal fiefdom. It protects them in their religious practice, but it should never be a limitation on their ability to move the levers of government when they want to use the government to spread their doctrines.

DanBack said...

"Why do you think corporate farms are thriving and family farms are dying? "

Can I send you a DVD of "Food, Inc." Kevin?

Rich Kasten said...

"the total costs of all malpractice suits in the U.S."

Yup I would agree with the suits part - what it does not take into consideration are the frivolous non-suits that are just settled with no filing and the huge insurance premiums that are in the end passed on to the consumer.

Sooo - tort reform is bigger and more necessary because when you have it - the thought is more of these frivolous claims will be put to rest when the practitioners know they will prevail in court and the "victims" won't get their payday.

Free Lunch said...

Kevin,

The inheritance tax law about farms was changed years ago. You are repeating a falsehood that the Republicans have been selling for years. People who sell farms when their parents die do so because they don't want to farm any more, not because the tax is too high.

Very simply, you cannot point to any recent examples of this happening. You have been punked by the GOP.

Dan, Kevin doesn't want to know that he is mistaken.

Kevin Scheunemann said...

Dan,

Sure.

Corporate farms don't have to pay inheritence tax because the ownership can be public, or if privately held, can be transferred before a "death" event occurs.

That is not the case with family farms. Sometimes family farms can structure the farming asset to avoid this destructive tax, but sudden and unexpected events happen.

So the family farm is saddled with a global tax burden corporate farms do not have to deal with.

Typical government policy reinforcing big corporations, destroying the little guy.

That's the legacy of liberal tax policy.

If destroying the family farm and giving corporate farms an unfair generational advantage... is what liberalism is after, congratulations your "progressive" tax policy is working.

Free Lunch said...

As I said, Kevin, you cannot point to a single recent instance to support your claim about farms. You also seem unaware that almost all family farms of any size are either corporations or limited liability companies. Read the tax law. You clearly do not understand it.

DanBack said...

Kevin sez:

"Typical government policy reinforcing big corporations, destroying the little guy.

That's the legacy of liberal tax policy."

I agree with the first sentence, but liberal tax policy isn't the cause. Conservative or Liberal, Food, Inc. will really make you think about where your food comes from.

Can I get your address Kevin? You can email to me at danbackhaus@gmail.com if you'd like.

Anonymous said...

When I was in the Republican Party, Jim Sensenbrenner came to a Lincoln Day brunch and spoke about the terrible "death tax" and its impact on "family farms and small business owners". In reality, the only person in the room with an estate big enough to qualify for taxation was.... Sensenbrenner. The rest of us would have gotten stuck covering the loss of federal revenue. But that always escaped the attendees, who clapped in admiration of Big Jim.

I was at a Feingold town hall meeting a few years ago when this came up. As far as he was concerned, the threshold could be raised to $7 million.

wbman said...

It's interesting that the Farm Bureau Federation wants the inheritance tax repealed. The National Farmers Organization (NFO) only wants the exemptions and thresholds changed to give family farms a break. Why the difference? I believe it's because the FBF backs corporate farms and has financial ties with major agribusiness companies. The NFO has stronger ties to the family farms.