Thursday, February 25, 2010

School board needs to make sure it's priorities are correct


Let's start here:
"Education is the point at which we decide whether we love the world enough to assume responsibility for it and by the same token save it from ruin which, except for renewal, except for the coming of the new and young, would be inevitable. And education, too, is where we decide whether we love our children enough not to expel them from our world and leave them to their own devices, nor to strike from their hands their chance of undertaking something new, something unforseen by us, but to prepare them in advance for the task of renewing a common world." [Hannah Arendt, "Between Past and Future" (New York: Penguin Books, [1968] 1993), p. 196.]

8 comments:

Kevin Scheunemann said...

Mark,

I assume responsibility for the education of my children.

I do not see it as a your perview or your responsibility to educate my kid, unless, they decide to go to cowpie (or Moo U) with their own money.

Its my child, not your child.

Before the age of 18, I would not want my kid exposed to the mind pollution of the global warming religion. If the planet is warming, I want my kids to embrace it!

While this quote seems eloquent, it smacks of of a subtle form of Stalinism.

Mpeterson said...

Right, of course. You don't believe you have any obligations to your fellow citizens.

That's such a wonderfully romantic ideal.

Kevin Scheunemann said...

Mark,

See, now here is the problem.

I don't want my kids exposed to the constant brainwashing fluff involved in the evolution, global warming, and recycling religions.

I want my kids learning that, if indeed, the planet is slightly warming, it could be a good thing. Recycling only makes sense when there is an economic incentive (and teach them to save aluminum cans to earn money and that recycling with no economic incentive hurts the planet) and its OK to learn creationism. You seem to carry positions to undermine my parental authority in these matters.

This is where I have a problem you assuming responsibility for my child.

When they are adults, and they want to attend MOO U, sure, then you can pollute their minds all you want. They will have to learn to sustain hyper-criticism of philosophy department on their own.

When you assume "responsibility" for my child, you take away my right as a parent.

The values of the state run school system are not always in line with encouraging the best life choices for my child.

Mpeterson said...

So, seriously, you don't believe you have any obligations to your neighbors or your country either.

Nice to see you're still sticking to your libertarian principles.

Responsible "for" your child? Nobody says that Kevin. That responsibility still lands on the parent.

Free Lunch said...

Kevin,

Wow. You lie to us about science, even though it is very clear that you are too ignorant of biology or climatology to have an informed opinion about evolution or the impact that humans have had on the climate. You don't care what happens to our society. You appear to want to mis-educate your own children. All of that and you act as if you have no shame.

How sad that America is suffering with so many anti-social people like you who are proud that they don't care what happens to their neighbors and don't mind lying to their children.

Kevin Scheuhnemann said...

Free Lunch,

Its interesting how I allegedly "lie" about science, but then you go into an emotional/spiritual kabuki on how ignorant I am to not teach every last vestige of the mainline liberal religions to my child.

I like to call it responsible parenting.

Mpeterson said...

I think I'd like to hear what you think mainstream American "liberalism" is Kevin -- I'll bet your version is a bogeyman version of the real thing. Let's hear it.

If I lose, I'll even forgive the $1500 (I think it is now) that you owe me in ice cream.

Free Lunch said...

Kevin,

You may want to call your behavior responsible, but that doesn't make it so. Evolution is happening today. it has happened throughout the history of life on this planet. If you tell a child not to believe this, you are lying. You are being irresponsible and dishonest, immoral. ID/Creationism is a complete fraud. It's proponents lost in court because they were wrong. You know that they lost. You know that it is a lie.

Humans are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. This affects our climate. If you deny this fact, it shows that you would rather be selfish today than care about your grandchildren.

Sadly, we have to work together to stop our actions from causing serious disruptions for humanity decades hence. The people who have a vested interest in continuing to make money by emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, like the cigarette companies, tell you lies and hope that you are dumb enough to fall for it because it lets you do nothing. You are a willing victim of confidence men. You have chosen to accept their lies because you don't want to pay for the pollution you are helping to cause.